My only rejoinder to this debate:
From Dream of Nostradamus:
My followers are honest with themselves. They embrace their terrible desires,their selfishness, their depravity... Their darkness. I do not tolerate such hipocritical values as justice, honour and virtue.
From Help Animists:
All life falls under their protection and care. Animals, Plants and Humans alike. From the quiet of the Grove its members go forth, helping all in Avalon that come to them in Peace, offering themselves, their knowledge and the gifts of the forest as t
hey seek to serve Life and Compassion.
Written by my hand on the 9th of Springflower, in the year 1101.